Has no determination why certain units are hanging been made yet? Or is this going to morph into a 'please give me extra time' thread?

I've suspended SiDock for the time being. I run BOINC in Ubuntu virtual machines on Mac hardware and VirtualBox. The last few long SiDock tasks (running in different machines) showed more time remaining after three day's execution than they had before they started. The CPU was trivial, but watching them run, I could see the remaining time increase more rapidly than the elapsed. I don't know at which point they failed, but I'm not really interested. I don't have time to babysit. If tasks are unreliable, the project gets shut down, and the capacity handed to another project.

Nick

But if you see tasks with estimation like "days" you can check it properties in BOINC Manager: "CPU time at last checkpoint" and "CPU time". If it values very differs (for 1 hour, for example) - task is hung and need a restart.

My one task is 4 days and 5 hours run time, at 99.4% complete, and stalled.
If I follow your direction then it will get credit for the last 30 minutes, according to Mad_Max.

Actually, all of the newer WU's (Feb 3rd deadline) that are progressing have:
CPU time at last checkpoint: of under 30 minutes.
The WU above, at 99.4% complete shows 1d 5 hours since last checkpoint.

So it seems that if the checkpoints are over 60 minutes ago then the task is hung.
Or is that because these new WU are checkpointing and the old ones weren't and so the run time should equal the checkpoint time?

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I'm running another project that has tasks that are quite allergic to restarts, and I'm running SiDock on a Ubuntu 22 machine on which the Boinc Manager keeps crashing a second after being started, so I can't use it and instead rely on boinccmd which makes aborting tasks a PITA.
Because of that I told my machine to stop asking for more SiDock long tasks. If I don't get anything else in the meantime I will have to wait until the SiDock long tasks are working properly.
Thanks for reading.

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Greetings, Jens

I'm running another project that has tasks that are quite allergic to restarts, and I'm running SiDock on a Ubuntu 22 machine on which the Boinc Manager keeps crashing a second after being started, so I can't use it and instead rely on boinccmd which makes aborting tasks a PITA.
Because of that I told my machine to stop asking for more SiDock long tasks. If I don't get anything else in the meantime I will have to wait until the SiDock long tasks are working properly.
Thanks for reading.

Try this: https://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/

Actually, all of the WU's that are progressing have:
CPU time at last checkpoint: of under 30 minutes.
The WU above, at 99.4% complete shows 1d 5 hours since last checkpoint.

Post name of this task and restart BOINC. If this result does not get appropriate credit, I simply add it. :)

Post name of this task and restart BOINC. If this results does not get appropriate credit, I simply add it. :)

I reset BOINC.exe controlling that last, above, WU and it completed in minutes and here is the result:

77561932	44887	15 Jan 2023, 18:36:22 UTC	21 Jan 2023, 1:48:59 UTC	Completed and validated	309,214.12	298,826.10	1,129.15	CurieMarieDock 0.2.0 long tasks v2.00
windows_x86_64

At least it's not 10 credit; not what you'd expect for 309k sec but over 1k.

Thanks for the above strategy to investigate run time and checkpoint in properties
I'm going to restart all the remaining BONC clients with 2d+ CPU time WUs and see what happens.

At least it's not 10 credit; not what you'd expect for 309k sec but over 1k.

Ryzen 3900X @ 4.0 GHz got 1004.96 CS for 85211.20 seconds of computations or 1004.95 CS / 23.67 hours / 4.0 GHz = 10.61 CS/(hour*GHz).
i5-8250U @ 1.60GHz got 1129.15 CS for 298826.10 seconds of computations or 1129.15 CS / 83.01 hours / 1.60 GHz = 8.50 CS/(hour*GHz).

But SMT of Ryzens much more efficient than Hyper-Threading of Intel.

Is multithreaded planned here?

Multithreaded tasks would be wonderful for the long WUs. I only ever crunch one project at a time so between multithreading and keeping a smaller cache, deadline issues would quickly become a thing of the past.

Are we getting lazy in our old days there ol buddy? LOL!!!

To me crunching is crunching and my pc's crunch 24/7 whether it's 1 cpu core per task or multiple cpu cores per task, the only problem for me is the deadlines with my older 2.?ghz machines.

mikey

At least it's not 10 credit; not what you'd expect for 309k sec but over 1k.

Ryzen 3900X @ 4.0 GHz got 1004.96 CS for 85211.20 seconds of computations or 1004.95 CS / 23.67 hours / 4.0 GHz = 10.61 CS/(hour*GHz).
i5-8250U @ 1.60GHz got 1129.15 CS for 298826.10 seconds of computations or 1129.15 CS / 83.01 hours / 1.60 GHz = 8.50 CS/(hour*GHz).

But SMT of Ryzens much more efficient than Hyper-Threading of Intel.

Probably true but not very cost efficient to replace half a dozen or more pc's just to run tasks here. I realize that there are 'issues' with just saying 'add multi-threaded tasks' but if you find the time it really would help those of us with the Intel cpu's that could use it.

If you can, please add some time, maybe 5 days to my wu's User ID 7207

Thanks
They are still running!

If you can, please add some time, maybe 5 days to my wu's User ID 7207

Thanks
They are still running!

Hi! :) Added! You can check tasks on hanging. Also you can stop and start BOINC again, simply.

Are we getting lazy in our old days there ol buddy? LOL!!!
To me crunching is crunching and my pc's crunch 24/7 whether it's 1 cpu core per task or multiple cpu cores per task, the only problem for me is the deadlines with my older 2.?ghz machines.

You're right, Mikey! Hope, than some of us remember what is really long tasks - CPDN at ~ 2006. More than one year of most advanced Pentium 4 @ 3.06 GHz HT per pair of tasks!

P.S. New tasks was supplied with two weeks deadline. Nature is amazing that expectations, as usual. :D

Please add 3 days for all tasks for user id: 4871

I have a mix of fast and slow PCs and laptops am having difficulty in finishing some on time.

thank you

Please add 3 days for all tasks for user id: 4871

2 tasks found, added. :)

Could you please add at least a day or two for user ID 8110? It's been running for days, was due the 24th and still says it has around 8.5 hours left. I just restarted BOINC for the second time since it's been running.

Thanks.

Doug

Could you please add at least a day or two for user ID 8110? It's been running for days, was due the 24th and still says it has around 8.5 hours left. I just restarted BOINC for the second time since it's been running.

I added 4 days. :)

Note that re-sends are issued with 6 days, which is not enough on slow PCs.

Paul.

Note that re-sends are issued with 6 days, which is not enough on slow PCs.

Deadline is 2 weeks at now. :)